Lead With Soul

Healing generational trauma with Ana Jones

April 26, 2021 Kimberly King Season 1 Episode 7
Lead With Soul
Healing generational trauma with Ana Jones
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In this episode of Lead With Soul, we're exploring generational trauma, how it can show up in your life and business, and some tangible practices you can explore to begin freeing yourself from generational trauma.

I'm so excited and honoured to have Ana Jones as a guest on today's episode. Ana is an Emotional Freedom Coach and a facilitator for trauma-informed transformation. She loves empowering and guiding highly driven, ambitious and passionate yet sensitive individuals on a journey towards healing generational trauma and moving past their fears.

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Episode 7: Healing generational trauma with Ana Jones


Intro:
Welcome to Lead With Soul — The podcast for spiritual entrepreneurs who are ready to build an impactful and profitable brand, create a thriving and sustainable business that aligns with your values, and experience more freedom, fulfillment and abundance in your life and business — while making a positive difference in the world. If you’re ready to elevate your business and brand to a new level, manifest your vision into reality and embody the leader you know you’re meant to be — this is the podcast for you. I’m your host, Kimberly King.

Kimberly King:
Hey everyone. Welcome back to another episode of Lead With Soul. I am super excited to have a guest on the podcast today, Ana, she is an emotional freedom coach and a facilitator for trauma-informed transformation. And I am super excited to share this conversation with you. So, Ana, I would love for you to introduce yourself, tell us a little bit more about who you are and the work that you do.

Ana Jones:
Yes. Hi, thank you so so much for having me on here, first of all, I really enjoy having these conversations. I love just being on podcasts like yours, especially anything with the word soul in it. I just get super excited. So thank you so much, Kimberly. First of all, I'll give you just a little bit of background of who I am and how I stumbled upon this line of work.

I was born and raised in Mexico. I wasn't raised in the states, so my identity was very, very much rooted in the Mexican culture. It still is. Not that that at the end of the day matters because, of the practice that I'm in, I really believe in the concept of unity and that we truly all are just part of this one whole, massive energy, but we'll get more into that later on.
Ever since I was really young, I've just been very, very curious. And I think that my curiosity has led me to this place. I'm not going to get into like my certifications and this and that, because I've done so many things, and have transferred from one field to the next, to the next, because I have found that it just wasn't enough. It wasn't deep enough where I was.

I started off as a health coach back in 2012 when I got my certification from the Institute of Integrative Nutrition from New York and then I just, it's just not deep enough. The program is amazing. It's very thorough, but. I realized that the reason why people were not investing in their health was because they didn't think that they were worthy. And then I was like, well, why do people don't think that they're worthy? I went down that huge rabbit hole of deservingness and being enough and being worthy and where does this stem from? You know, I started realizing that it really has very little to do with our soul journey. And when I say soul, it's more like S O L E, not S O U L because it does have to do a lot with our S O U L journey.

It goes really, really deep into our lineage and that's why I wanted to start off with the identity because there are a lot of people that don't really recognize and don't acknowledge their ancestors, where they come from, what they've been through, the journey that they've had to endure to get to where they are and nowadays, I think a lot of us, at least you and I. Can say, and the people that are listening to the podcast either have a computer, internet, or a smartphone, right. We are so privileged to be living in an era where we can actually talk about things like this, right? Just like, how can we heal the generational transfers of our time and just come to the realization that there's so much to us than just us.

We are just a small piece of a long, long thread. That goes back days, months, years, decades, millenniums. And I'm very, very excited to dive in as deep as we possibly can for the next minutes, the next hour, however long we choose to be here. So I'll just leave it at that.

Kimberly King:
Amazing. I absolutely love it and I always find it really interesting to also meet other coaches. I also started my journey with IIN as a health coach and had very similar feelings around it as you where I absolutely loved it and was really passionate about health and wellness and I still am, but really craved just that, that deeper work. So I absolutely loved that.

I'd love to start off for anyone who may not be familiar with generational trauma or what exactly that means. Maybe if you could share a bit more about what that means? And I also heard you use the word transfers and I'd love to hear your perspective on why you choose to use that word and what exactly that means.

Ana Jones:
Yes. No, that is a fantastic question. I use the word transfers in my practice to soften the weight to make the burden of the word trauma a little bit lighter, because I feel like it's a word that's been tossed around, along with manifestation and healing. And just a couple of other words that are very trendy right now. I don't want people to think that the word trauma is, I don't want to add more charge to the triggers that already might be there, right. So instead of just focusing on the word trauma, we can do transfers. All of these things I've acquired, like when I'm talking about this with clients and they have been part of all of these new words that I'm bringing on. It's a collective collaboration.

Inherited generational trauma, which is the actual name, right? You'll even find it in hashtags on Instagram. It really comes down to the experiences, circumstances, beliefs, and thoughts. Just to name a few that have been transferred from generations before us. This includes your mother, whether you were adopted, or if you are still in contact or if you still have your biological mother alive with you, and whether you have a good relationship with them or not, it doesn't matter. It's your biological mother. Biological grandmother. Great grandmother. Great, great, great grandmother. Seven generations back affect you.

I don't know if you've ever been to a yoga class and the teacher says “your thoughts are not yours”. And I used to say this a lot in my classes, because most of the time when we take a moment to sit down or when we meditate or when we're just in stillness, all of these thoughts come in. A lot of the time I would say the majority of the time, those thoughts are not really ours. They are just part of the programming that we have. And these programmings, these beliefs, these concepts, these circumstances, and events. The way we think that we are, isn't really who we are. When we don't realize when we haven't woken up to the concept of, oh my gosh. I am actually just a projection of my mother's beliefs, of my grandmother’s beliefs, of my dad's desires, of my grandfather's wishes.

We are not living our life. We're living someone else's life. I think that can be a little tricky because it's a very, fear-based like survival mode mentality, and it takes a lot of guts and courage to drop all of those programmings because that's all we know. Our ego kicks in this process is a dance with your spirit and your ego, and it's not getting rid of either, but how can they both integrate to make the best of it in this lifetime? Because you cannot survive without the ego, right? The ego is your identity, quote, unquote, whatever that is for you. The reason, again, you know, transfers. I feel like the word transfer is all-encompassing and it includes the traumas and traumas can vary from something very deep and very, very hurtful, physically, emotionally, sexually in many, many aspects from like, I wasn't seen as a child. I wasn't acknowledged when I was on the honour roll and in third grade and my parents just like whatever.

So both impact us in a very, very deep manner. And when we don't acknowledge these things, When we don't acknowledge these events, we go through life still with this open wound, but we're just finding different people to activate that wound again. And we go and say, oh my gosh, this person did this to me. This person did that to me. And it's like, no, really that person is just reminding you that you need to heal that wound. Otherwise, you're going to be bleeding all over the place. And that's something that I noticed with this work is very easy to quote-unquote easy. It just depends on how open you are, but it's easier to identify and to actually cure it and heal it so that you don't have to go out there in the world just with an open heart and an open wounds, it's not safe to live that way in my perspective.

Kimberly King:
Yeah, definitely. I just find this topic so fascinating. And I love the idea of using the word transfer because like you said, it's not necessarily just trauma it can be beliefs and experiences. So sometimes those things can. Be passed down or pass through and affect us unconsciously. And I feel like when you have that awareness that this is something that is impacting you, it's so powerful because that means that you then have the power to change it, to shift it, to heal those wounds, to shift those beliefs, to change, maybe your identity that was shaped from these transfers. And I feel like that is really, really empowering in and of itself and not necessarily easy, but it does give you a place to dive deeper into that.

I know that you mentioned not feeling seen maybe as a child or things like that. And I'd love to talk a bit about how generational trauma or these transfers can impact us in our adult life. And maybe even specifically as entrepreneurs, because I know there are so many entrepreneurs who have fears around visibility, or maybe when it comes to putting themselves out there or selling their offers. So I'd love to talk about how that can impact us in our adult life or how this might impact us as entrepreneurs in our business.

Ana Jones:
There's this phrase that I really like, and I think it's really, really true. It goes, tell me how big your success is, and I'll tell you how big your wound is. And to tell other people, Hey, I was living in this condition, I was having this life and guess what? I turned it around and look at the life I have now. I have a beautiful wife. I have beautiful children. This is what I'm constantly doing and this and that. And he keeps on giving. So I really like to use him as an example, because it's about how much you want to heal. In my perspective, I believe that the transfers that we have never really go away, we just become aware of them. There is so much healing to be done that I don't want people to think, oh, I'm broken or I need to be fixed. You are already perfection. Like you are your unique definition of perfection and a lot of people don't like that word and I understand why, but all change the word, change the word, whatever you want it to be.

Here's the paradox, right? The perfection of just being you wholly. W H, not H O L I or both, whatever your preference is, but truly, how can you move into a space that will feel safe, but you're still noticing and having this awareness of all of the things that you do need to heal. Because otherwise you, like I was saying before, you're just going to spend your whole life blaming other people for what they quote-unquote did to you. But in reality, it's just the universe. God, whatever you want to call it, life circumstances that are telling you, Hey, this needs to be healed.

So I'll give you, I'll give you my own personal example. I sometimes. Still do. And I catch myself when I do it now. I'm in a relationship. And so. I'll notice a lot of the times when I go into my people-pleasing mode, I am burning both ends of the candle and I am over-committing myself. I am overextending myself. I am like putting everything on a silver platter and that silver platter, I like, I want to, you know, push it out on all ends. And that is me. Going into that mode of like, I want to be seen, I want to be acknowledged. I want to be heard. I want to be loved. And now I realize that when I start thinking about acting that way, I need to go either take a bubble bath, do some yoga, or do something that feels good to me. Get a massage, treat myself to dinner, whatever, because that is me giving myself the signal that I need to nurture myself. That I am looking for my boyfriend to see me, to hear me, to feel me, to love me, to acknowledge me. But yes, I can communicate that to him, but he is not responsible to fulfill those needs.

It's always lovely to have someone second those feelings, but it's my job. It's my job to nurture myself. And I think that's still something that we struggle with because we're not taught. Right. It's almost like if you're not in a relationship, something is wrong with you. And, and I'm not saying you first need to love yourself otherwise you can't be in our relationship. No, I don't think that there are any right quote-unquote ways to do certain things. I think that you really just have to be open to losing yourself. And know that you will have that courage and that strength and that trust in yourself to come back to that space where you feel at home.

And I was talking about this with a friend today. It's like ships, ships don't just go to the middle of nowhere and don't anchor themselves. They throw down the anchor when they're like, okay, we're going to explore here, whatever it is that they're exploring. And then the ship can move north, south, east, west, but it's always grounded somewhere deep down in the ocean.
Same thing with us. Can you anchor yourself? To a support group, to a coach, to a therapist, to a person that's your accountability person. And then go explore what are my wounds? What am I projecting onto the people that I'm closest to? Because whoever you're closest to, whoever you have, more interactions with on a daily basis, that's, who's going to be your biggest projector. Or your biggest screen and you're going to want to project stuff on them.

So that's something that I would really ask the entrepreneurs that are listening, how are you dealing with your transfers? How are you moving into a space of healing? If you are even moving towards a space of healing and, and I know there's a lot of, I saw this on social media the other day, there was a therapist that was like bashing people that were doing a lot of stuff of healing. It's a very, how can I phrase this? You really have to trust yourself. When you know who you're going to work with, and that's something that entrepreneurs need to do, need to have trust in themselves for making decisions and owning them, not throwing their trust out there so that they can then blame someone else for not taking care of them. We are responsible for ourselves. What happened to us in the past is not, it's not our fault. But it is our responsibility to heal. It is our responsibility to take care of ourselves.

Kimberly King:
Absolutely. There's definitely a level of self-responsibility and self-awareness that comes with doing this work and being an entrepreneur in general, but definitely when it comes to looking at your wounds and your transfers, and really reflecting on what you might be projecting out there and what you are receiving.

I love what you said, that metaphor of the ship and anchoring yourself. And it's definitely something that I fully, fully believe in is creating a support system for yourself, whether that is a community of other entrepreneurs, having a coach or coaches, a therapist, you know, people around you who can support you when that extra support, and also knowing how to support yourself, because, at the end of the day, We are responsible for our own happiness. So I really, really love that.

Are there any practices and tools that might be helpful for when somebody does notice these things coming up for them that they can turn to, to kind of provide that anchoring or that resourcing for themselves?

Ana Jones:
I think that. The way that all of these inherited beliefs and these inherited transfers show up. I mean, not even in entrepreneurs, I would say in every single person is, check your beliefs. What are the repetitive phrases that you say to yourself every single day? What's the first thing that you say to yourself when you wake up in the morning? I've had people that are like, oh fudge, you know, like wake up in the first thing in the morning. I'm like, really? That's how you start off your day. Like, I mean, I start off my day by saying thank you. Thank you for another day. Thank you for another breath of air. Thank you. We take so many things for granted that to me, it's just, and I do it too. Right? When I say this, I am part of the human experience.

I am part of, you know, the people, the human race. And I include myself. When I say this, we don't value our health enough. We don't value the things that we already have, the people that we share moments with. So I would say what is showing up in your life to remind you that you already have enough and that success if you don't have it now, or you don't have that definition of success for yourself right now will come when you appreciate what you have in this moment.

Most of the time, because we all, even the optimists have, you know, crappy days, we, we all go through these, just check in with your sabotaging tendencies. Check-in I mean, if you are constantly procrastinating. Why are you procrastinating? What's keeping you safe because we all do it. We all do it. Even if the people that you think don't do it, they do it. But sometimes a lot of people think, especially when they've made it right when they are like, I have a bajillion followers, they're like, oh yeah, I can't quote-unquote look bad. Or I can't show my flaws or I can't show my humanness, which I think is a downfall for all of us, because then people actually believe that this person is like a superhuman and that's not true.

We all experienced it. Right. So I would say if you are an entrepreneur and you are not journaling and you are not exploring some sort of meditation for yourself, if you're not exploring some type of grounding or earthing, that's basically just coming in contact with nature. Then I really highly suggest that you do that because we are always coming up with ideas. So I would really, really want to extend that invitation to do it because it works right. It's self-reflection, it's calling yourself out on your own BS and really just asking yourself, do I want to keep lying to myself for much longer. Right. Because a lot of times we really do lie to ourselves.

We say, oh no, this is totally fine. Oh, I'm super content with this. Oh yeah, you know what? My job isn't great, but it is what it is. It's like, no. You're not you're, you're not brought onto this earth to just clock in and clock out and then just check out while you watch Netflix. Right. There's so much more than that. And if you are in the entrepreneurial world, you are a creative, whether it's with numbers, whether it's with art, whether it's, you know, whatever it is, words, anything. So dig a little bit deeper and get out of your comfort zone, because that truly is where the upgraded self yourself is to be found.

Kimberly King:
Absolutely journaling, meditating and grounding are a few of my practices that I do almost daily and not every single day, but definitely my go-to ones that are really, really great for doing some of that internal work. I love what you said about starting to recognize that even the entrepreneurs who we see out there, or the really successful business owners who seem to have it all together to remember that we are all human.

And that is definitely part of my mission is to just humanize the coaching industry, business, entrepreneurship, and to let it be okay for us to be human, to mess things up, to feel a full range of emotions and not making ourselves wrong for that because that is such a key part of the human experience. And especially when it comes to having more of that awareness, like you said, starting to recognize, okay, what am I experiencing that may be connected to a belief or something like that? See what beliefs might be coming up for you? What transfers might be there, so that you can take that next step to transmute that.

Ana Jones:
Yes, absolutely. And this is such a great way to start cutting out trauma out of your life. This is such a great way to start it. I'm not going to lie. This is a process for the courageous. This is a process for those who are willing to face their demons and to see parts of themselves that are not pretty and who aren't afraid to wake up in the middle of the night. Curl into a fetal position and just ball for the next, you know, 30 minutes to an hour. It's really, for those who want more out of life, if you are someone that just thinks that by sitting down and listening to this podcast, something, you know, outlandish is going to happen in your life.

I'm not saying it won’t, because especially if you've never listened to a podcast like this before, and then you're listening to it. Now your subconscious and your conscious are going to be like, Ooh, what are we looking for now? We're looking for opportunities for growth. And so that's where it starts getting really, really interesting.

And once you get on this side, I have a friend who recently quote-unquote, joined, you know, the other side I call it. and she's just been digging into all this and she's been loving it. And I did tell her, I was like, be careful because at the beginning you think you're better than other people. You think that, you know, more than other people and that's just natural, right? It's like, oh, I found this new way of living and I can't believe I hadn't found it before. And oh my gosh, I am so much better than everyone else because I'm so enlightened. No, you're not, you're just, more aware. And then you realize that you know nothing and then you learn a little bit more and then you come back to that space. Like, yeah, I know absolutely nothing.

And you know, this world is just filled up with theories. Which one am I going to pick? So that's when you realize that truly life is what you make of it, you create your reality period. And I know this is a very used-up phrase, but I don't care because it's true. It's super, super true. And when you have a conflict with someone, you are, co-creating that conflict for a reason, you have to ask yourself why, \when you are experiencing a magical moment, a beautiful experience, you are co-creating that experience with your environment, with the people around you and the people that are also part of the experience.

So it's very easy to blame others for what happens in our life. But when we take accountability, For our own journey. This is the most healing thing that we can do, not only for ourselves but for the entire planet, for the entire collective. And I always tell people that the reason why I love this process is because in my mind and my ideal world if everyone would just focus on their stuff If everybody would just mind their own business and heal their wounds. So they're not bleeding into someone else's reality. Then the world wouldn't have all the chaos that it has, it wouldn't have the drama, it wouldn't have the conflicts, it wouldn't have the nuclear, you know, threats and bombings and all these things. And I know this is like very, very deep and very, very intense, but it wouldn't, it wouldn't, the world would be peaceful, but because there is a part of us that thrives on drama and chaos, we continue to create this.

So this is all man-made. This reality that we are living, the moment you turn on the news, which I highly recommend that if you're watching the news and you suffer from anxiety, stop watching it because it's not good for you. There's never going to be anything good on the news for you to help you feel good about yourself or anything in the world. So again, the moment you turn on the news, it's that reality. We're all part of it. We're all part of it because collectively there is a part of us that enjoys chaos and that enjoys the drama that enjoys the, oh, I'm better than you. Or, you know, my race is better than yours. I should have more of this.

It's like, we're all the same. No, one's better than anyone. But when it comes down to getting out of your apartment, opening the door, you walk into a reality that may not be the reality that you want to live in, but you can, you can create such a beautiful reality that it begins to leak into others' reality as well. So that is something that gives me hope and that keeps me going. And when I wake up in the morning, I'm excited to leak beauty and magic and excitement into someone else's reality. So that's something that as entrepreneurs, as human beings, we can do through our work, through our art.

Kimberly King:
That's so beautiful. Yeah. I think it's important to remember when it comes to healing and it comes to doing the inner work that it's not just about us and that when we do that, It impacts everyone around us. And, you know, even though there is this reality that we do currently live in, that is maybe not what we envision in many different ways.

We do have the power to turn inwards and do the work to impact what that reality is like. And, you know, I feel like we saw a lot of that in 2020 collectively where people were starting to really wake up and realize, you know, I'm not okay with the way that the current reality is, and I'm going to do something about it and it starts with us. And I think that's really beautiful and empowering to remember that.

Ana Jones:
Yeah, absolutely. And you’re completely right about last year, if there is a lesson to be learned from last year is going inward, slowing down is not a bad thing. It's actually needed like the human race needed a break from the grind. Nature needed a break from us constantly damaging and polluting and contaminating.

So I really, really hope that I'm not saying that you have to gain enlightenment from last year, but hopefully, you did gain some insights that made you. Feel this pool of I can do better. It is within your possibilities to do better and to be a better human being. And if you don't want to do it for yourself, do it for something or someone that you love because it affects us. It affects all of us, whether we want to admit it or.

Kimberly King:
Yeah, absolutely. Is there anything else that you feel called to share when it comes to generational trauma or the inner work or anything that you feel called to share at this moment?

Ana Jones:
Yeah, I feel it just, you know, to close, just really reiterating that life is a paradox. There's always going to be a yes and then a no, and then a no, and then comes the, yes, it's never really black and white. There's always shades of gray in between. So learn to not take yourself too seriously because you really end up losing when you do. It's like, I tell people I'm like, you're special, but you're not that special. And you know, like, you really are like, you really are special, but you're not, that's special that someone else's specialness gets to not be as equally special as yours.

And I know that was a lot, but really just find a way to, to level the playing field. Right. If you feel less than ask yourself why, if you feel more than ask yourself, why if you feel entitled if you feel like somebody or someone or something owes you anything. No, nobody owes you anything. And it really, I mean, I just like to tell people, like, what can you do to be a better person, period. And that looks differently to each and every one of us. So if there's anything that you can get out of this podcast is how can I, as a human being, add more value to other people's lives. You don't have to create a product just to, you know, impact other people's lives. You can volunteer, you can send a text out to old friends or family members or somebody that you're still holding a grudge on for whatever they did to you. And back in the sixth grade, whatever.

So truly, how can you, I know that healing again, can be a word of like, oh my gosh, here we go again. But how can you start healing from what hurt you so that you don't bleed on those who didn't cut you. And that's a phrase that a friend of mine shared that his therapist shared with him. So I love to share it. And that's just, and that's just how it is. Really. If somebody reacts to your comment, it's not about you, it's never about you. It's always about us, but because we cannot experience sometimes certain things through our own perspective, we need other people to remind us and reflect to us what it is that we are capable of, what it is that we are supposed to be doing in the, in the most soulful way. And how can we start leading with our soul, with our heart instead of leading with our mind?

With overthinking with over-analyzing with, you know, oh my gosh, this doesn't make sense. A lot of beautiful things don't make sense. And that's my invitation, right? For you to explore life. And even if it's scary, anchor down, Somewhere where you know that you can always come up for air and go as deep as you can, as deep as you'd like with safety precautions, measurements for yourself only, you know, for that, what that is and take accountability, take responsibility of how far and how deep you go because no one else can save you. No one else can do what, you know, how to do best and that's taking care of yourself. So you can take care of the rest of the world, of the rest of the planet just by being you.

Kimberly King:
That is so beautiful. It's really important to remember too. I feel like as entrepreneurs we can get so caught up in asking questions, like how can I make more money? How can I grow my business? How can I sign more clients? And we forget that a more important and impactful question is how can I add value? How can I show up as a better person? And I think if we could start every day asking ourselves that question, oh my gosh, I can't even imagine. How much it would change our reality and impact the people around us, which is at the core of what so many of us desire to do with our business and through the work that we do is to impact people in a positive way.

So I'm definitely going to take that away for myself. And, I really love the idea of also asking why, because I feel like that just opened. The door of possibilities and just leaning into curiosity and helping you gain more of that awareness. Yeah, I think that is absolutely beautiful. And I think like you said, it's really important to remember that as you're doing this work to anchor yourself, to create that support system, to find your resources and to go at a pace that feels good for you.

I know a lot of times in entrepreneurship, there is sometimes this message of pushing and forcing and hustling and get there quicker and 10K in three days or whatever, all of these different kinds of messages that they have such an anxious energy around them. And Healing is not a linear process. And it's not something that necessarily you do in a day, right.
Especially when it comes to generational trauma and transfers and things that go back, like you said, seven generations. It's really unrealistic to think that in one day you can just shift everything and everything's going to, and your identity is going to completely transform. Right?

So I think really giving yourself permission to. Take the time and space that you need, get the support that you need, create the resources for yourself, and just being really gentle and compassionate with yourself along the way. And that's definitely something that I am practicing for myself as well. Absolutely love that.

Ana Jones:
Yeah. And there are no mistakes, right? There's no mistake it’s not a coincidence that you and I are having this conversation. It's not a coincidence that the person that's listening. I mean, you, the audience that you're listening right now, this is not a coincidence. It's like, you are bringing into your life, the things that you need to hear, the things that need to give you that nudge.

And, and here it is, but you do have to respond to the calling. It's not just about, you know, expecting the sign to show up as a literal messenger with you know, a little rolled paper, like in the old days, saying, Hey, this is me, the universe, you need to get your ass off the chair and go do X, Y, and Z. It's like there are just so many other ways, right? Of, of the universe speaking to you or life speaking to. So I hope that this conversation will give people that nudge to get up and start moving into the direction that they want to move in. And if you feel lost, if you feel hopeless, if you feel helpless, that's natural.

That's part of the entrepreneurial experience as part of the human experience. So find your tribe, find the people that will always. Be rooting for you and are not going to criticize. You are not going to put you down, are not going to say you're crazy. Right. And are going to cheer you on and are going to offer feedback and are going to love you no matter what they do exist.
And if you're constantly saying that they don't then yeah. That's why they're not coming into your reality. Because you are speaking that into existence. So be mindful of what you say to yourself on a daily basis. So you can start bringing in the quality of life that you want, the quality of people, the environment.

Kimberly King:
Yes, definitely being more conscious and aware of our thoughts, our language, our actions, just everything day to day, it's going to make such a huge impact. I absolutely have loved this conversation. Thank you so much for sharing all of your wisdom and your insights and your expertise. I would love for you to share how people can connect with you.
And if you have a free gift or an offer you're currently promoting, feel free to share that as well.

Ana Jones:
Awesome. Thank you so much. yes. So you can find me, I'm pretty much active on my Instagram and you can just find me @anacjones, Ana the letter C and then Jones, J O N E S. Also my website is on there, so you can just click on my link tree and you can find everything there.

You can find where to purchase my meditations, how to get on my email list. The Facebook group, all that good stuff. And right now I am offering a promo. just because I've noticed that there's just a lot of, a lot of work to be done, a lot of healing that needs to be done. And I am offering to, however much I can take, right until, I guess like, until I'm up to capacity, one-on-one. 60-minute coaching sessions, obviously with me it's for $99, which is a super steal. Because usually, my sessions go from like 450 to 500 dollars. So this is something that I'm gifting to anyone who feels called. And you can purchase up to three sessions.

Then after that, we would talk about what it would look like if you want to continue to work together or not. There is no catch. There is no like schemey marketing, salesy, creepy, you know, BS sort of thing. And the reason why I wanted to do this is because of my birthday. My birthday is actually tomorrow,

Kimberly King:
Happy Early Birthday!

Ana Jones:
Thank you. That's just me just extending my gratitude for being alive for 35 years on this earth. So I figured that's the most rewarding thing about being alive. Right. helping others come back to themselves, coming, coming back home to where they just forgot. We've just forgotten. We, but are our, our soul knows our heart knows when we’re in the right place. So I'm really on a mission to help people. Realign their heart and their soul instead of being all Headspace.

So hopefully, if any of the listeners feel called to just schedule some time with me, I am more than welcome to extend the offer. I don't know. You know, maybe somebody who listens to this a year after. So, just make sure that you send me a DM on Instagram and tell me, Hey, Ana, I listened to your podcast episode, you know, with Kimberly on Lead With Soul. And I'll definitely honour the promo, even if it's, even if I'm not offering it anymore. And if I do still have space.

Kimberly King:
Amazing. That is such an incredible offer and super generous. I will also have your links in the show notes as well. So you can connect with Ana there and thank you again so much for being on the podcast. It's been such an honour and so much fun, and I will see you all on the next episode of Lead With Soul.

Outro:
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